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Post by yote14 on Nov 21, 2014 15:18:23 GMT -6
I like Thoseby. Last year after the men were beat at the Summit league tournament Thoseby and Gruis were the only 2 players (That I saw, could have been more) in the student section for the women's championship game against Denver. that garnered a lot of my respect.
It's tough because with a new coach comes a new game plan. Maybe he doesnt fit into the defense as well for coach Smith which is an area we needed the biggest change from last year. Smith also seems like a guy that will make some of those players like Norris and Thoseby more of a role player so some games they are going to see a lot more action than others depending on the game plan.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 21, 2014 15:09:06 GMT -6
Jackjd said: Do you know how many students at the South Dakota School of Medicine, the SD School of Law, and in your grad programs in business come from SDSU (and other undergraduate schools for that matter)? Exactly, they know where to go.... I suppose it is a waste of time to occasionally inject serious subject-matter into a message board. Everyone (me too) is tryng to be cute with short, biting remarks they perceive are funny. But this topic: where SDSU students go for a degree in Medicine (follow, for example, our running back Zach Zenner -- he's planning on going to med school), is interesting and a serious topic. The question I posed was a serious one and was only the first in a series of questions that may take you down a path that will cause you to wonder what USD could do to attract top notch students who seem to be avoiding the place. Suggestion: find out what the law school administration is doing in making connections with SDSU. jackjd.............What USD could do to attract top notch students who seem to be avoiding the place. Let me hit you with some facts partner. SDSU's admission requirements ACT 18 or higher SAT 870 or higher GPA 2.6 or higher Transfer students need a GPA of 2.0 or higher USD's admission requirements ACT 21 or higher SAT 990 or higher GPA 2.6 or higher Transfer students need a GPA of 3.0 or higher We have the top notch students already. SDSU will accept any random Tom, Dick, or Farmer not smart enough to go anywhere else simply to have a large undergrad population because they do not have any graduate programs that are worth a shit. If you do not go there for Engeneering, Pharmac or Nurseing what do you do? They could care less about the quality of that garbage degree they will pick up. I know 2 people that failed out of the business school in Vermillion while I was there and they both went to Brookings to their joke of a made up agribusiness degree or maybe it was entrepreneur degree and were a B student when they graduated from there and constantly make jokes about how easy the program was. We have top notch students already. Thats why our business program consistanly scores very high in the exit exams. My final year there we were in the top 5% in the nation. You are crazy. What can they do to get top notch students to USD. Why dont you talk to State about getting some acceptance standards other than "Did you pay the $20 fee? Yes.......Welcome to State".
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Post by yote14 on Nov 21, 2014 13:22:02 GMT -6
One thing that gets overlooked is the fact that SDSU has an undergrad enrollment that is twice the size of USD. USD has a larger female to male ratio and SDSU has a larger male to female student population. Theres no question that diehard sports fans tend to be male. Next,Brookings is 3 times the size of Vermillion. Regional small universities like USD and SDSU fans are going to be made up with a majority of either current/past students and their families and people from the city in which the university resides. With a significantly smaller undergrad population and significantly smaller city in which the university resides it is going to equate to a smaller fan base. If USD or SDSU was in Sioux Falls like NDSU is in Fargo the student enrollment would be 20,000 and no one would even remember there are other schools in the state.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 21, 2014 10:36:58 GMT -6
It will be nice to have a big man that can play outside. Flack is really the only other player we have had that can do that in a long time. From what I've heard about this kid he is also really good at passing and handling the ball which will make him deadly on the perimeter.
Nice work cousin eddie on the recriting updates. Keep it coming.
verbalcommits.com is a really good site for basketball recruiting. Even at the smaller school level. Has anyone found a good recruiting site for FCS football. ESPN is horrible at keeping the smaller schools pages up to date.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 21, 2014 9:53:48 GMT -6
SDSU degrees are worth something all by themselves. My Bachelor of Science degree has given me tremendous earning power and a fine lifestyle without the need for an additional degree. Without another degree on top of a USD undergrad degree, that must not be the case. You said it yourself. Is the first day of speech class at USD still dedicated to the question, " Would you like fries with that?" Lower enrollment, yet double the endowment. Explain that. Well said Yotes. It's tought to explain how with twice the undergrad enrollment you have an endowment that is half the size. NDSU is in the same boat only i feel like their undergrad enrollment is more than twice the size of USD (I would have to look at the numbers again) but their endowment is similar to SDSU. #LIFESUCCESS
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Post by yote14 on Nov 20, 2014 14:40:27 GMT -6
It's good to see Tom still honor his roots. It's great to see him do things like this and if I remember correctly he came back to Vermillion for Doc Farber's funeral.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 20, 2014 14:06:44 GMT -6
You're right. USD does not make ice cream or mix feed rations for pigs and cows. I will take our list of famous alumni over the bunnies any day of the week. Al Neuharth-Founder of the USA today Joe Foss-Commissioner of the American Football League, President of the National Rifle Association, Tom Brokaw Dan Crippen Ernest Lawrence-Manhatten prjoect, UC Berkeley, Chemical Element Lawrencium is named after him Pat Obrien-ET Entertainment Tonight Joe Robbie-Former Owner of the Miami Dolphins (Joe Robbie Stadium) To drop a few big names. This does not include every single lawyer, doctor, politician, or anyone else important in SD. The bunnies have half of the Briggs and Stratton engine (and a small half I might add) a lie about cookies and cream ice cream, and Kristi Noem.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 20, 2014 13:39:39 GMT -6
The depth of the bench was impressive. I also liked the howl throughout the game.
Why was the church lady from Saturday Night Live doing the commentating last night. It was brutal to listen to her but their feed was awesome.
I wish the Summit League would do something like this. You do not get that much money at our level for video memberships. Make it free so USD and the conference can get exposure and a following like the UVU, The Big Sky and I want to say the Mountain West does this.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 20, 2014 13:16:25 GMT -6
Jackjd
I can entertain your claim for basketball games that more USD fans would travel for a game compared to NDSU. But how many USD fans are really at the basketball games in Brookings? not that many. Maybe 5% of the total attendance. Just like the games in Vermillion are 95% red if not more. At least the last 2 years they have been. And that has even been the past few years when USD was a huge underdog in those games.
The football game is off the table. If you say that more USD fans travel to Brookings for the game than NDSU fans you are crazy. I'm not sure there is anyone left in Fargo on gamedays that they are on the road. especially when it's the closest away game for them all year like Brookings is. There was just simply more SDSU fans at the USD game in Brookings for football than there was NDSU.
I'm not buying that argument in basketball either. Unless you want to tell me in 2011/2012 there were over 3,000 USD fans in Brookings which is what it would take to make your George W. Bush math work out on your theory.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 19, 2014 15:35:26 GMT -6
Hopefully the feed is as good as the Utah Valley mens game. Thanks for the heads up Charlie.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 19, 2014 14:48:05 GMT -6
And quit trying to say you invented cookies and cream ice cream SDSU. You didnt.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 19, 2014 14:24:15 GMT -6
Basketball games in Brookings 2013/2014 Vs. USD 5,509 Vs. NDSU 4,859
2012/2013 Vs. USD 6,130 Vs. NDSU 6,063
2011/2012 Vs. USD 6,216 Vs. NDSU 3,303
Not once has there been more fans at a game in Brookings VS. NDSU than against USD. These are hard numbers to hide behind for people who try to say USD is no longer a rival.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 19, 2014 14:21:40 GMT -6
Im not buying that USD is not a rival of SDSU. They are the only 2 schools in SD at this level of athletics. It is just a saying state fans use to try and degrade the U since the transition. Any true State or U fan knows that the other school is their biggest rival. If they say otherwise they either are not a true fan or started following either school during the transition. I agree 100%. Its a statement they use to degrade U fans. If State does not look at it as a rivalry game then why is this football game and the 2 basketball games against USD the ones with the highest attendence for the year? 2012 Football Game Vs. USD 15,278 Vs. NDSU 14,966 I get they have had the upper hand the last 3 years while we have tried to fight out of the transition but NDSU looks at SDSU the same way as SDSU looks at USD. how many times has SDSU beat NDSU in football since they transitioned? Once that I can remember. Maybe twice. It surely hasent happened as of late and most of the football games between those two have not even been close. So if SDSU thinks USD is not their rival after 100 years of being one of the biggest rivalries in DII because they have had the upper hand the last 3 years then why does SDSU think they are NDSU's rival? NDSU has owned them in everything (as they have owned everyone to be fair)NDSU does not look at them as competition. I would love for someone to shed some light on what makes USD not their rival anymore and if thats true why that game draws the most attendence?
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Post by yote14 on Nov 18, 2014 13:41:50 GMT -6
In all probability, a third consecutive trip to the playoffs is on the line for SDSU. They have to win to be under consideration by the selections committee. So the Jacks have plenty to motivate them for this game. Hopefully as many as 5 or possibly 6, if YSU beats NDSU, Missouri Valley teams will be in the playoffs. NDSU and ISUred are locks. NIU, SDSU and ISUblue should also make it if they win this weekend and YSU can qualify for consideration with 7 wins if they beat NDSU. Great year for the Valley. I agree ISU and NDSU are locks. I also think Northern Iowa is a lock even if they lose this weekend. I know a lot of people think that 6 or 7 teams are going to get in from the valley but I just do not see that happening. 5 would be the max. Indiana State wins and I think they get the 4th spot even though SDSU beat them. They have more quality wins in their OOC. So it comes down to SDSU and YSU. I beleive SDSU will win on Saturday easy unless theres a huge shift in the universe. So it will all come down to if YSU can win in Fargo on Saturday. If they do they get the 5th spot and SDSU is hoping to get a 6th which I just do not think will happen. YSU loses and its a coin flip between SDSU and YSU for that 5th spot with the other hoping they take 6 from the MVFC.
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Post by yote14 on Nov 18, 2014 13:16:28 GMT -6
Utah Valley was one we probably should have had but Stanford was always going to be difficult for us. It was a sweet 16 team that had a lot returning this year. They look like they will be solid and will get these games when we get into confernece play. Still pretty early though.
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