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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 10, 2018 13:54:21 GMT -6
that is actually a slam towards USD because those dorks have defeated the Coyotes much more often than not.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 10, 2018 11:59:26 GMT -6
When laws or rules are passed I always try to take my own personal bias out of it and side with the correct rule or law that I think is best for all. If I were in the position of a student athlete I would want my freedom to choose what I wanted to do. If I studied at a school for a couple of years and that work made me be able to get accepted into Yale I would want the opportunity to transfer to Yale. I don't think it should be any different for a student athlete.
If the recruiting process works as it should an athlete should want to come to that school and stay at that school the entire time they are there. If students are constantly wanting to transfer away than maybe it is a culture issue for a particular school. If the SCSC had the kind of atmosphere for men's games that it did for the WNIT run than maybe Mooney would be more apt to stay. I think that would have been very important to him. The bottom line is why should a rule be implemented for a majority and take away the liberties of the individual player that is effected the most by it. I am all for competition and to give free will to the student athlete puts the onus on the college to be as desirable as possible for that person to want to stay.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 7, 2018 17:15:10 GMT -6
That is not at all an inappropriate topic. Thanks for posting it actually.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 23:18:17 GMT -6
Of course it is about the Coyotes but no one University has been as responsible for Coyote heart break as SDSU has been. NDSU really hasn't taken much away from the Coyotes. They have never eliminated the Coyotes from the basketball tourney and haven't been responsible for really altering the Coyotes football path either. I would say as much as people would like to discount it, SDSU is indeed a dilemma if making the NCAA tourney in basketball is a big deal for Coyote fans. The Jacks have been directly responsible for eliminating Coyote teams and many times those Coyotes teams were the higher seeds. They stand in the way of Coyote athletics in a big way. Of course athletics are progressing at USD but that doesn't change the facts.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 18:03:09 GMT -6
When it comes to Augustana I am pretty much convinced that it is more so "when" they move up and no longer "if". People look at it as the old NCC but last I knew the NCC sponsored football and the Summit does not. That is a pretty big exclusion considering football is either the most important or certainly one of the most important sports. I don't look at the UNO rivalry quite the same now as I did and if Augie doesn't have scholarship football I will think of it the same with them.
I am of the belief or in other words predict that Augustana will announce a D1 move before the fall athletic season begins. Maybe much sooner than that. It certainly is not a guarantee.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 16:32:43 GMT -6
I was actually going to start this topic directly after the Summit tourney and prior to that after the football game. It is time to keep it under wraps no longer.
The Jackrabbits are absolutely a dilemma for USD. For those that have always thought that having a strong, or potentially a very strong Jacks athletic program is good for everyone, more particularly the State of South Dakota. Do people continue to feel that way that are supporters of USD?
The strength of the Jacks in men's basketball could already be having residual effects. We don't know if the strength of their program and as a result the Coyotes not making the NCAA tourney had an effect in Craig Smith leaving but it certainly can't be ruled out. Does Smith not being able to get by them at the Summit Tourney possibly lead him to looking for another job just a little more aggressively. Now that Smith is gone obviously that is going to lead Mooney to take a long hard look at his future. If the Coyotes had gotten to an NCAA tourney by now and not run into the buzz saw that is the Jacks would Mooney believe it was more likely that the Coyotes could get to the tourney again. If Mooney leaves, what are the chances that others follow. I think it would be fair to say that Smith's departure could be setting the program back at minimum a year if not multiple years.
With SDSU's success they continue to get more media attention and as of now recruits are probably going to choose SDSU more often than they will USD but there is much more to it than just their success in relation to USD's. It is very fair to say that SDSU has cost the USD Women 3 NCAA tourney appearances and the men at least 2. That is a ton of missed opportunities that can be pretty much attributed to one rival University.
In football losing to them may have been the difference between the Coyotes getting a home playoff game vs a road game. The Coyotes still have not defeated them as a D1 school.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 14:02:45 GMT -6
Zach Borg at KDLT. What a douche. Asks a question about lots of empty seats at games in Vermillion. JFC we drew only 23 less people per game than SDSU as a season average. That is what the announced attendance states but go to each schools web sites and pull up the photos and I am not so sure you would come to that same conclusion. USD announced closer to accurate for the WNIT games for actual people there but did not do the same for regular season games. Borg had every right to ask that question and he has basis for it. I like reporters that ask the tough questions.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 11:53:39 GMT -6
How about a little sarcasm to try to keep positive about the situation. Matt Mooney leaving isn't the end of the world just yet but someone just turned on the Universes exit sign.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 11:02:40 GMT -6
We will be just fine without Mooney. we might be just fine 2 or 3 years from now but without him next year that is a fairly significant piece that will greatly reduce the chances of the Coyotes making the NCAA tourney. He is a guy that can be relied upon as a go to player. If just fine is maybe a 10-6 conference record and no ncaa berth than I agree that we will be just fine. It all depends on ones expectations.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 8:32:27 GMT -6
Well everyone outside USD seems to think our sports are one man shows. Yeah, or one-woman shows. How many times did we hear that without Seekamp we wouldn't be contenders in the conference? They were saying the same thing after the first year of existence of the U of South Dakota when they were State College. They technically may big big brother but they are the younger brother and they need to not forget that.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 6, 2018 0:38:55 GMT -6
I will start out by saying that I will try to be as fair as I can and would hope others would take the same stance whether a particular person is pro Lee or not pro Lee as of yet. I will give Todd Lee my support and I will give him some rope but honestly the rope will not be real long if things don't go well. I am a natural skeptic and with Lee that certainly is no different. Craig Smith left this program in very good shape and especially from a player personnel aspect. There is really no reason or excuse that Lee should not be able to succeed pretty much right off the bat. Good coaches know how to get the players around them to succeed. As far as I am concerned I do think Lee has to have at least some blame or credit for what happens to Mooney. If he can't convince one of our current players to stay on board why would he be able to convince players that have nothing to do with USD to come either. Of course he doesn't deserve a ton of blame or credit but if Mooney still leaves that is not going to leave me feeling very warm. We will see what happens with the other recruits. Lee has had a ton of experience but I am not sure that experience lends me to believe that he is the upside coach that we would want. He coached at Kentucky Wesleyan and did a decent job there but that is a place where most coaches should probably do fairly well so I am not going to use that gig as a major good point or bad point. Using excuses why a coach didn't do so well such as a program on probation or having nothing to work with when he started isn't something that proves he is a good coach but what that does is show at best is that he is an unproven coach. If a coach is in a difficult situation and had mediocre results that shouldn't necessarily be considered a good thing. My biggest issue with him is his career path. If he was such a good coach why would he have spent the last 5 years as an assistant at a college transitioning to D1 as in Grand Canyon. For me he seems like a career journeyman. It doesn't seem like he is much of a hot name either and I wonder how many other D1 programs have seriously considered him for an opening. Of course now is the time we get to hear all the fluff. He is a great guy, a hard worker, a great person to work with yada, yada, yada. Those are things that are going to be said about anyone just hired for a job. This hire to me smells like a Dave Williams used to know him and had a biased towards him and possibly used that past relationship as a reason to hire him over other candidates that have better resumes and upside. I am assuming Lee is about 55 and I have a hard time seeing the upside in this hire and have a hard time believing that he is going to be able to do everything it takes to be the head man in recruiting, player development and strategical coaching to be able to unseat the Jacks as the king of the Summit. I am not going to pretend to know everything as I don't have the info that anyone has that makes the hires but objectively I just have a hard time with this. It seems like when his name was first mentioned that everyone was kind of skeptical but as soon as he was announced the tone changed very quickly. I look at this like the parents that have a child with a developmental disability. If you ask them "would you ever trade him for a child with normal capabilities". You will get "no way" every time but if that choice was made prior to the child being born no one is going to choose the disability over no disability. It always seems to come down to what people know and are used to. Now that Lee is official people will tend to rationalize towards the positive even if their initial thoughts or feelings weren't very positive.I have yet to really hear many outside opinions yet but non biased outsiders often times tend to be right on whether this was a good or bad hire. As I said in the beginning I will give Lee a chance but my first impression is not a very good one on the tangibles of the hire. Did you really just type this? This is out of bounds and just in poor taste. You're going to take a couple of days off from posting here so you can think about this for a while. Take the time to do some introspection, seriously. Since I was banned I had no chance to defend myself or clarify what I meant by this post. In no way am I comparing a child with a disability to the hiring of Todd Lee as I would never do that. The point I was trying to make (and I am sorry if I botched that attempt) is that I was establishing the way people tend to think. A person can completely change their stance when something goes from being just an idea to an actual happening. Before Todd Lee was hired it seemed like there were many people questioning it. Once he got hired much of that changed rather suddenly. Some of it was because of just learning more about him but the fact does remain that many people will change their thought process quickly. If Todd Lee was just hired as the coach of NDSU or SDSU I think the tone would probably be a little different. Many people have come out in support of him as far as endorsing him for the job. That certainly is not a bad thing but how good of a thing that is, is yet to be determined. There is quite a bit of fluff to sift through during this stage of a new hire. Much of it may be true and much of it might be just that "Fluff". We get to find out the answer to that based on how things go this off season and how things go next season. As people know I like to take the side of the devils advocate and much of that is just to keep a level of honestly. There is one thing I did like that I heard. It was one of his former players that I heard on a KWSN interview. It was mentioned that his is really driven to win. If that is the case, than the philosophies of himself and myself would match very closely. I don't really care what kind of a personality he has, I care that the guy wins basketball games at USD. He can be a great guy, a good guy or an average guy. It doesn't matter that much to me as long as he is a great coach.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 4, 2018 17:28:17 GMT -6
A thought: Does the forum limit the number of times users can downvote a specific user? The function loses its effictiveness without limits. I think I've dropped 10 points in the past few days and I doubt I did anything to enrage the masses. Sure, I had my homer Carlton posts, but come on. Nevermind, I got my answer. Checked my profile and can see that CF negatively voted on me 4 times in the last 17 minutes. Guessing he just hates realistic versions of reality. What comes around goes around.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 4, 2018 16:53:20 GMT -6
There are many Timber Wolves fans that are not very happy at all with Thibodeau so I am not sure if we should make that comparison.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 4, 2018 16:49:29 GMT -6
I will start out by saying that I will try to be as fair as I can and would hope others would take the same stance whether a particular person is pro Lee or not pro Lee as of yet. I will give Todd Lee my support and I will give him some rope but honestly the rope will not be real long if things don't go well. I am a natural skeptic and with Lee that certainly is no different.
Craig Smith left this program in very good shape and especially from a player personnel aspect. There is really no reason or excuse that Lee should not be able to succeed pretty much right off the bat. Good coaches know how to get the players around them to succeed. As far as I am concerned I do think Lee has to have at least some blame or credit for what happens to Mooney. If he can't convince one of our current players to stay on board why would he be able to convince players that have nothing to do with USD to come either. Of course he doesn't deserve a ton of blame or credit but if Mooney still leaves that is not going to leave me feeling very warm. We will see what happens with the other recruits.
Lee has had a ton of experience but I am not sure that experience lends me to believe that he is the upside coach that we would want. He coached at Kentucky Wesleyan and did a decent job there but that is a place where most coaches should probably do fairly well so I am not going to use that gig as a major good point or bad point. Using excuses why a coach didn't do so well such as a program on probation or having nothing to work with when he started isn't something that proves he is a good coach but what that does is show at best is that he is an unproven coach. If a coach is in a difficult situation and had mediocre results that shouldn't necessarily be considered a good thing.
My biggest issue with him is his career path. If he was such a good coach why would he have spent the last 5 years as an assistant at a college transitioning to D1 as in Grand Canyon. For me he seems like a career journeyman. It doesn't seem like he is much of a hot name either and I wonder how many other D1 programs have seriously considered him for an opening.
Of course now is the time we get to hear all the fluff. He is a great guy, a hard worker, a great person to work with yada, yada, yada. Those are things that are going to be said about anyone just hired for a job. This hire to me smells like a Dave Williams used to know him and had a biased towards him and possibly used that past relationship as a reason to hire him over other candidates that have better resumes and upside. I am assuming Lee is about 55 and I have a hard time seeing the upside in this hire and have a hard time believing that he is going to be able to do everything it takes to be the head man in recruiting, player development and strategical coaching to be able to unseat the Jacks as the king of the Summit. I am not going to pretend to know everything as I don't have the info that anyone has that makes the hires but objectively I just have a hard time with this.
It seems like when his name was first mentioned that everyone was kind of skeptical but as soon as he was announced the tone changed very quickly. I look at this like the parents that have a child with a developmental disability. If you ask them "would you ever trade him for a child with normal capabilities". You will get "no way" every time but if that choice was made prior to the child being born no one is going to choose the disability over no disability. It always seems to come down to what people know and are used to. Now that Lee is official people will tend to rationalize towards the positive even if their initial thoughts or feelings weren't very positive.
I have yet to really hear many outside opinions yet but non biased outsiders often times tend to be right on whether this was a good or bad hire. As I said in the beginning I will give Lee a chance but my first impression is not a very good one on the tangibles of the hire.
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Post by Coyote Fan on Apr 4, 2018 14:15:42 GMT -6
You know what I wish that quote said. "Good Guy, Great Coach, Terrific Job".
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