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Post by obc on Nov 19, 2012 17:41:15 GMT -6
Sad that NDSU brought more fans last year to CAS than USD brought today. That attendance record would have fallen if USD alumni had done their part. 15,278 is a rather disappointing turnout but understandable factoring in the lack of success USD has had this year, the $40 ticket price, and the lethargic fan base overall. The team needs to step up and so do the alumni. Hold on here, let's not get confused. The $40 ticket price is the EXACT reason I didn't go to this game. Why should I pay $120 for 3 tickets to the rival school so my family could stand around the field the entire game? I'm not going to get gouged like that and certainly not going to give a single penny to SDSU. Instead I'd rather watch the game from home and take that $120 and give it to the Howling Pack. Lord knows the athletic dept needs the money. Unfortunately there were plenty of pockets in the stands you could have moved to. USD didn't travel well for how close of a road trip it was and it speaks to one of the problems with our fan base. While the $40 per ticket price may have kept you home for this game - my guess is there were several USD fans that would have coughed up the money if USD had come into the game with a few more wins.
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Post by obc on Nov 18, 2012 18:29:00 GMT -6
A comparison I would make to USDs season this year is Washington State.
They are 2-9 and 0-8 in the PAC 12 right now heading into their last game against in state rival Washington. Their two wins have come against Eastern Washington by 4 points and UNLV (2-10 currently) by 8 points.
Washington State hired Mike Leach the same time USD hired Glenn.
We all know Glenn's resume - the three knocks against him that I have heard and think have some validity are: 1. He was retired when we hired him - so he was mentally out of the game. 2. Winning at UNC and Montana is a hell of a lot easier than building a winner at USD. He wasn't able to get it done at Wyoming. 3. At USD he will have a younger less experienced staff than what he has been used to over his recent career.
Mike Leach has been a part of several program turn arounds and rebuilds - started out building a Jr College program in Iowa with Hal Mumme, went to Valdosta State and built a powerhouse, (he was also a finalist for the USD job in 1991 when Creehan was hired) went to Kentucky as OC and made them highly competitive while there, won a National Championship at Oklahoma as OC under Stoops, and then most recently turned a completely irrelevant Texas Tech team to a National contender.
Now at Washington State in year one he is headed for 10 losses just like Glenn at USD. I believe both men are excellent coaches that have real track records of success and have forgotten more about football than I have ever known.
If Glenn can look in the mirror and can honestly say he is up to the challenge and here to see this through - I believe he can and will get it done. We will get to see. I believe USD can have a winning season next year (which compared to this year would be a huge improvement).
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Post by obc on Nov 18, 2012 6:09:15 GMT -6
JVM had a horrible fumble in the game and the rest of the offense watched as the SDSU player took it in for a score (over 40 yards). The other glaring error was the first play over-throw missing out on a sure TD.
Even with those errors - JVM was the second best offensive player for USD yesterday - Powell was the best.
USD lost mainly because SDSU controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. The USD OL is weak and actually kind of fat. The SDSU OL was the best FCS line we saw this year. anyone else notice the glaring difference? I have heard SDSU's strength and conditioning program is very good and it shows on the field.
The OL and DL are the biggest position group holding USD back. They make everyone else look better when they control the LOS. Unless this is fixed things will not get better.
My final post game thought is this: a very bad USD team just played the best SDSU team of all time. SDSU scored two offensive TDs in the first half and a FG. We know USD had an opportunity to tie the game at 7 a piece early. The second half USD was in position to score after driving down the field three different times. SDSU only scored after they started with a very short field after the USD onside kick.
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Post by obc on Nov 17, 2012 19:58:22 GMT -6
Sad that NDSU brought more fans last year to CAS than USD brought today. That attendance record would have fallen if USD alumni had done their part.
15,278 is a rather disappointing turnout but understandable factoring in the lack of success USD has had this year, the $40 ticket price, and the lethargic fan base overall.
The team needs to step up and so do the alumni.
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Post by obc on Nov 17, 2012 10:25:25 GMT -6
Heading to the game now and plan on getting into the stadium early - Have a SRO ticket.
Should be a win for the Jacks. That being said I am hoping for a great game and a solid start on an even better rivalry at the Division One level.
Attendance prediction: 16,500
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Post by obc on Nov 15, 2012 7:32:03 GMT -6
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Post by obc on Nov 14, 2012 20:25:56 GMT -6
His post game comments Didn't make many winning plays. Played poor basketball for most of it. Gave up too many points off second chance points or off turnovers. Boot's not happy with performance or toughness. Gruis did alot and he expects alot out of him. He did well. Needs him to be consistant. Said Rowson is active and gets to the basket. Thought he did well defensively. returning players not so much. Toughness and rebounding not there from team. credits Southern on defense but Yotes decision making not good. At end of half didn't get shot off at end of half. Boots not interested in ''us growing up'' but instead in playing well and winning. Team a bit too soft against tough physical D1 teams. Classic Boots post-game comments. I like Boots chances of getting more out of the team. Free-throw shooting is concerning. Gruis sounded like he has taken a nice step forward in the off-season and was very productive - that is much needed to compete in the Summit.
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Post by obc on Nov 12, 2012 17:45:29 GMT -6
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Post by obc on Nov 11, 2012 13:00:18 GMT -6
Just watched the replay of this game on ESPN3 - really well done btw, highly recommend that folks that have not checked out those broadcasts take a look.
A few more thoughts after rewatching the game:
Glenn has tons of fire on the sidelines. Wes actually called a good game as OC Sims and McMartin were both suspended for violation of team rules and did not play the first half - two Senior leaders on the team - very disappointing Penalties looked as bad on TV as in person.... The USD defense is getting better DJ Wakes dropped an INT that was thrown right to him that would have prevented UNI from taking the lead before half. The pass Terrance Terry let go through his hands would have been a sure TD in the second half.
Listening to Glenn's post game pressed I think he summed up the Yotes issue this year - with the skill level of this team they have no margin of error to get a win.
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Post by obc on Nov 11, 2012 8:27:39 GMT -6
You are a fool if you don't think the transition hurt recruiting depth leading up to now. In all sports. That could be used 3 or 4 years ago but not this year. Again why do we have to judge ourselves to difference standards than SDSU and NDSU. I would say both of their entire athletic programs transitioned to the point where they were ready from year one of eligibility in most programs to be good. Not the case with USD. In many sports we are no better off now than during year 1 or 2 of transition. For whatever reason maybe we just don't have the same learning curve as the schools up north. We allow ourselves to be swallowed up by excuses here. What is sad is that our best coach Ryun Williams who is a USD grad jumped ship. What does that tell you. Maybe he knew something the rest of us don't know. SDSU's women's coach didn't jump ship because when he was about to he realised he just couldn't leave what they had going on at SDSU. What sport can we say that about aside from pole vaulting at SD. He doubled his total compensation at Colorado State and was able to pay his top assistant as much money as he made as USD's head coach last year. Easy decision.
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Post by obc on Nov 11, 2012 8:19:41 GMT -6
A few thoughts in regards to YFE's post.
Ed was talented and brought athletes to Vermillion. We all saw it. It was exciting to see the offensive firepower and big OL's go to work. But who were they successful against?
What was his record against SDSU? NDSU? UNI? (All former NCC members other USD coaches had to face and now do). Ed came to his leadership role during a period of time that the NCC was neutered.
UNI came to Vermillion and handily beat USD two years ago and USD scored late to make it seem close. Ed also lost twice to them on the road. One time I think it was 66-7.
This years game could have gone either way. Granted - UNI is not the dominant team they were a few years back but keep in mind that this year that same team beat SDSU handily, played NDSU, Wisconsin, and Iowa all very tough. They managed to trounce Western Illinois 40-0.
Consider UND? What was Ed's record against them?
Illinois State last year was a physical beating.
Ed rallied the team to beat EWU last year (I believe his greatest win at home) and the Gophers two years ago (huge upset obviously - great win) IMO USD won both of those games because EWU an UM did not bring a physical approach to the game.
EWU was a finesse team and UM had the big guys but never stuck with the power running game. USD had trouble stopping it when they ran it, but UM got impatient and started slinging the ball - throwing incompletions.
The MVFC has teams that seem to commit to running the ball until you stop them. Very physical approaches to the game. Defensively they have all been very stout and physical.
Again - how did Ed do against these types of teams? I think his long term record against UND is an indication. He had three games against UNI. He went to Fargo and got a taste of the Bison. Add those up and I think it tells you how he would do.
As far as the sidelines - UNI's sidelines were not exactly doing cartwheels either. The play on the field yesterday was physical and showed as great an effort as I have seen this year. These kids are human and being 1-8 heading into UNI has to wear on them. As USD alumni I know it has been embarrassing for all of us. Imagine how the players must feel.
As far as Glenn's age and ability to connect with young players: Nick Saban is 61 - Frank Solich is older than Glenn. You brought up Bill Snyder who is 9 years older than Glenn. Glenn knows how to sell - we will see a good class of recruits that will fit what we need to compete in the MVFC.
Glenn was handed a physically and mentally soft team. There were many discipline issues to deal with. He has gotten rid of some very talented players (detailed in other posts.). Looks like there are a few Glenn still needs to run off as well. Even before this season there were a few arrests with players still on the roster now - see isn't it nice the Argus doesn't cover USD...... Certainly you have heard some of the rumors of bad things that happened with players under Ed's watch in Vermillion - some pretty shocking actually, but not worth posting. Came to a head with a handful of USD players damaging the Alerus Center locker room while Ed was in there watching.
Ed brought excitement and sound bytes. - wins against weaker opponents mostly at home - losses against physical - well coached opponents home or away.
Glenn is the guy to do this right. There was a lot of work to do and I feel fortunate to have his leadership.
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Post by obc on Nov 10, 2012 21:45:22 GMT -6
are those 2013 - 2014 schedules set for sure then? thanks They were posted by the AD, so they will happen unless one of our non-conference games backs out. MVFC schedule is obviously set for sure.
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Post by obc on Nov 10, 2012 21:21:43 GMT -6
If the Coyotes pull off the upset next Saturday, do anyone's opinions on this subject change? It is the only game USD has left, so it is important. A win next week does not change the fact USD has not gotten it done 9 times this year and will be remembered as a team that struggled to compete. Would be nice for the players and staff to get a win heading into the offseason.
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Post by obc on Nov 10, 2012 19:58:24 GMT -6
I would like to see Glenn see this process through. He had a decent recruiting class that redshirted some guys that I think could play now. Matt Miller and Chris Wiseman look like they have been hitting the weights hard this year. Excited to see them play.
The defense is getting better with play from some young guys. Reeves is playing better at corner (true FR), Lage is going to be a force (true FR). Glenn brought in Taverna and he has had a solid year - good player.
Tons of underclassmen getting key time on defense. Iddings, Lage, Jacobs, Greer, Jacobs, Guziec, Reeves.
The OL is key in any offense, but especially important in what Glenn is trying to run.
As far as the next coach after Glenn - I would be shocked if he is someone currently on the Staff.
What hurts USD IMO is the fact the budget dictates the assistants are going to be younger - less experienced guys.
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Post by obc on Nov 10, 2012 19:19:09 GMT -6
Your desire for Kalen DeBoer as HC would be a bad idea in my opinion. He is OC for southern Illinois - they are 5-5 currently and their offense has struggled. He has been very ineffective at the FCS level. Against the MVFC they have scored - 14, 3, 17, 34, 38, 17, 12 for an avg of 19. They have a top level defense that has kept them in games.
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